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[其他] 一封美国大学的拒信:中国人不道德,不诚信,欺骗,将来不录取中国学生!

 
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zzcnhic 发表于 2012-8-6 12:04:37 | 查看全部 阅读模式

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Dear xxx:

I would like to inform you of the situation relevant to Chinese graduate students here, at least at our department, which makes it very difficult for us to accept graduate students from China in the future.

Over about one year period, we have had 6 Chinese Ph.D. students quit their RAship and Ph.D. studies. The reason for them to leave was not that they could not continue, it was rather because they want to have a job now (a higher salary, with a hope that the companies will apply for their green card status. They came with thier promises to pursue their Ph.D. degrees, we paid tuition for them to take courses for their Master degree, and we taught and helped them in their research capabilities. Once they got their M.S. degree in Mechanical Engeering, because of the excellent job market in the U.S. at this time, it is relatively easy for them to find a job. In a way we felt that we were used as a step for those Chinese students to come here, and get their master's degree, then get their jobs. We pay approximately $45-50 K/year for each Ph.D. student, including the tuition, health insurance, various fees, lab and computer fees, and monthly salary, we also put a lot of time and efforts for them. They (most of them) also did good research work as assistants. However, we don't get credit because we don't produce PH.D's, which is one of our major purposes as an institution of high education. On the other hand, they have their particular interests which are also understandable, for example, financial pressure, and wishes to have their green card applications on the way asap.

This situation also happened to my Chinese Ph.D.student. He is very talented and did a good job in research. However, after he got his M.S. in M.E., he resigned very recently. We still let him stay here presently (with salary) for one more month, otherwise he will have to repay his tuition, which is over $10K. Although we are very considerate for those students, the consequences are obvious:

(1) It greatly degraded the reputation of Chinese graduate students who apply for admission. Some professors address those as "very unethical", "you really cannot trust them when they promise you to pursue their Ph.D. degrees; under your supervision", " you feel you are so stupid as cheated by your own student". It really created some resentment. Actually, I know, as of this time, there are a couple of more students looking for a job or already got a job offer, but not telling their advisors. They will quit at the last minute before they leave. This situation will certainly get backfired, and the damage will mostly be transferred onto the future applicants from China.

(2) Some professors or research scientists have already made their decisions not to consider Chinese student applications. Although it should not and cannot be a policy, it is the individual's decision in selecting future. Ph.D. students with preference, and in my opinion, with good reasons. It will make it much more difficult for us to bring in Ph.D. students from China. For example, as you know, I was looking for one or two Ph.D. students later this year, and I have a vacancy for a Ph.D. student now. But I will not consider Chinese applicants. At the same time I feel truely sorry, for I know, especially many graduate students from Tsinghua University of very high qualifications sent email applications to me (and to other professors), including yourself. Now I have to inform you that please try your applications elsewhere, or other professors.

In our department, many Chinese graduate students know me and we have a very friendly relationships. The faculty members know that too. One told me: "You try to help them, then they screw you up!" I spent time to write this email message, for your information and considerations, as to how this situation may be somehow alleviated. You may discuss this with your close friends and classmates, I am not sure you should broadly propagate this message. But I did present a fact and an opinion.

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DataFieldLv.5 发表于 2012-8-7 10:27:06 | 查看全部
用GOOGLE翻译的:


亲爱的XXX:

我想通知你的情况,有关中国研究生这里,至少在我们的部门,这使得它非常困难的,我们在未来接受来自中国的研究生。

过为期一年左右,我们有6个中国博士学生退出其RAship和博士学位研究。他们离开的原因是,他们不能再继续下去,而是因为他们希望现在有一份工作(更高的薪水,希望该公司将申请绿卡身份,他们与他们的承诺来追求自己的博士学位,我们付出的学费,对他们采取的硕士学位课程,我们教导并帮助他们在他们的研究能力,一旦他们了,因为他们在良好的就业市场在机械Engeering硕士学位,美国在这个时候,比较容易为他们要找到一份工作。在某种程度上,我们觉得,我们被这些中国学生来这里,得到他们的大师的学位,然后得到他们的工作的一个步骤使用。我们支付约$ 45-50的K /每年为每个博士生,包括学费,健康保险,各种费用,实验室和电脑的费用,每月工资,我们也提出了很多时间和他们的努力,他们(大部分),并担任助理良好的科研工作。然而,我们没有获得信贷,因为我们不生产博士学位的,这是我们作为一个高教育机构的主要目的之一。另一方面,他们有其特定利益,这也是可以理解的,例如,财政压力,并希望他们对绿卡申请的方式,尽快。

这种情况也发生我中国Ph.D.student。他非常有才华和良好的工作做了研究。然而,他得到了他的M.S.在M.E.,他最近辞职。我们还是让他留在这儿现为一个月(工资),否则,他将要偿还他的学费,超过1万美元。虽然我们是非常体贴的学生,其后果是显而易见的:

(1)申请入学的中国研究生的声誉大大降低。一些教授的地址为“非常不道德”,“你真的不能信任他们时,他们答应你去追求自己的博士学位;您的监督下”,“你觉得你是非常愚蠢的,因为自己的学生被骗”。它确实创造了一些不满。其实,我知道,这次,有更多的学生找工作的情侣,或已经得到了工作机会,但不告诉他们的顾问。他们将退出在最后一分钟才离开。这种情况肯定会得到适得其反,损害将主要转移到未来来自中国的申请人。

(2)一些教授或研究的科学家已经作出决定,不考虑中国的学生申请。虽然它不应该不能是一个政策,它是个人在选择未来的决定。博士学生偏好,在我看来,具有良好的原因。它将使我们更加困难,在博士带来来自中国的学生。例如,如你所知,我在寻找一个或两个博士学生在今年晚些时候,我有一个博士的职位空缺学生现在。但我不会考虑中国的申请人。在同一时间,我觉得忠实地对不起,我知道,我很多,尤其是从很高的学历清华大学研究生发送电子邮件应用程序(和其他教授),包括你自己。现在我要告诉你,请尝试其他地方你的应用程序,或其他教授。

在我们的部门,许多中国的研究生都知道我和我们有一个非常友好的关系。教职员工知道太多。人告诉我:“你尽力帮助他们,然后他们搞砸你!”我花时间写这个邮件,如何可以某种程度上缓解这种情况,您的信息和注意事项。你可能与你的亲密朋友和同学讨论这个,我不知道你应该广泛地传播这个消息。但我确实提出的事实和意见。
herobullLv.3 发表于 2012-8-11 22:47:25 | 查看全部
谷歌翻译……
luozhangLv.5 发表于 2012-8-12 09:51:54 | 查看全部
翻译出一堆垃圾
赞同,什么破翻译 
发表于 2013-9-13 08:29
哈哈,赞同! 
发表于 2012-8-12 11:51
liuchiyunLv.2 发表于 2012-8-18 16:24:39 | 查看全部
难过;看不懂
hb6542357Lv.3 发表于 2012-9-2 11:18:43 | 查看全部
火星文么!?   我文化低啊,暂时看不懂外星语!
lyyifengLv.16 发表于 2012-9-5 19:42:42 | 查看全部
看不懂            
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zxy_1980Lv.3 发表于 2012-9-17 09:05:05 | 查看全部
看到英文就头大
reasonoLv.3 发表于 2012-9-17 09:27:52 | 查看全部
这都是什么跟什么呀?
人在无锡Lv.8 发表于 2013-9-8 12:58:36 | 查看全部
看不懂,中国的外国人!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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